S-o Phil and his assembly line a little about how he made his first duck calls. Well, he needed a like sanding thing or whatever you call it so he went around looking for it but the issue is this type of machinery was expensive and he didn't make much money then so once he was talking to a church friend and he was like yeah I have to somehow get like a bunch of money and the guys like how much do you need and he wrote it on a pice of paper and Phil went to the bank and said I need twenty-five thousand dollars and the man was like whats your collateral Phil put that sheet of paper down and they were like let's go get some coffee. So he bought his machinery but the issue was he spent most of the money spending it on this machinery, okay and when it came Phil thought it would be enough to put in the back of his truck, no. They were like you will need a flatbed to get this thing to your house. Like this thing was massive so Phil went and got a dump truck and they put in their and Phil had his machinery.